The Many Experiences of John Ramirez
“A being came to me and said ‘don’t worry. We know you moved.’”
Last week I suggested that the United States Intelligence Community should update its polygraph testing to ask questions about UFOs. A great deal of that was motivated by a series of interviews I had listened to with former CIA Officer, John Ramirez. John burst onto the scene in May 2021 and it was the combination of his very legitimate IC career and his claimed UFO experience that drew significant attention from the UFO Community.
By my count, John has since appeared on 24 podcasts speaking for over 60 hours on the subject. Since he will likely remain a significant figure of discussion for years to come, I thought it might be helpful to round up the things John has said about (1) his career, (2) his professional interaction with UFOs, and (3) his personal interactions with UFOs.
Presented factually and without judgement, let’s begin with:
The Professional Experience of John Ramirez
John joined the United States Navy in 1973, training as an Electronic Warfare Technician. Over the next six years, he served onboard the guided missile destroyer USS Cochrane and the frigate USS Thomas C. Hart.1 While at sea, he was responsible for monitoring foreign communications, jamming radars, and identifying other ships through microwave signatures.2 He left to pursue higher education at the end of his six-year enlistment period in 1979.3
John attended George Washington University in Washington D.C. with an interest in qualifying himself for a role with the CIA. He attended GW between 1979 and 1983, graduating with a Bachelor of Arts in Political Science.4
In 1984, John began his career with the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) after a year-long application process.5 Over the next 25 years, he variously served in:
the Signals Analysis Division, Office of Signals Intelligence Operations, in the Directorate of Science and Technology. John performed an “ELINT” (Electronic Intelligence) role and began his service as a Senior Analyst (GS-8).6
the Missile Defense Branch, Defensive Systems Division, Office of Scientific and Weapons Research, in the Directorate of Intelligence.78 In this role, John acted primarily as an analyst for ballistic missile defense radars in Russia.
the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) National Counterproliferation Center (NCPC). In this role, John dealt primarily with the use of U.S. spy satellites to prevent nuclear weapons development.
John held a Top Secret/Sensitive Compartmentalized Information security clearance during this entire period. He retired formally from the CIA on September 30, 2009, exiting service as a GS-15.9
John’s Professional Interaction with UFOs
Over his 25-years with the CIA, John claims two major career highlights relating to the UFO Phenomenon. Those were:
Russian UFO Tracking: “in Russia [their] radars started detecting objects in the sky which caused their alert levels to rise. And they were not satellites that they would normally track and they were not ballistic missiles that we would launch … but they were seeing things that were moving very fast that alerted them to say ‘okay, we need to increase our [defense] readiness.’ So we detected an increase in readiness and when you look back at the signals used by those radars, you can tell they were tracking something.”10 In 1994-95 Ramirez was personally responsible for writing a memo to the Deputy Secretary of Defense (John Deutsch) on this issue.11
Mysterious Flying Orbs: John is currently working on an FOIA request with the government which would allow him to provide more detail on a series of flying orbs observed by U.S. spy satellites.12 In general, these included the observation of a series of orbs flying in formation from the Artic Circle into undisclosed locations in Russia.13 In the early 2000’s, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) formed a working group to assess these observations, the results of which are still classified. John ultimately sent two subordinates to participate in this working group who implied to him they had reached an extra-terrestrial explanation.1415
John’s Personal Experience with UFOs
At about 4 years old (in 1957) John looked through a telescope and “had a profound sense that [he] was not part of this planet.”16 He would later interpret this as a message indicating that “perhaps he got left behind on earth and so even though [he] had an earthly family, his real family was ‘out there.’”17
At about 6 years old (in 1959), John started to have “a recurring dream of being led into a house for a medical examination.” In his dream, an unknown woman would lead him into a Victorian-era house where he would then be medically examined by a doctor and a nurse in period-appropriate clothing. This happened multiple times and, on inquiry, his parents denied ever taking him to any place that matched this description. John would later interpret these dreams as a “cover experience” that helped process an interaction he was having with “other beings.”1819
Also at 6 years old (in 1959), John sees an object in the sky while playing outside with his cousins. The object looked like a very large tic tac floating above a nearby treeline. John pointed out the object to his cousins, who, according to him, were unable to see it. The object then floated way.20
Sometime after these experiences, John found himself in a bookstore with his mother. He recalls seeing a book with an illustration of two primitive human beings holding a modern looking baby up in the sky, illuminated by two beams of light. He asked his mother to buy the book for him but on returning to its location in the store, it had disappeared. John would later interpret this experience as a “download” from a non-human intelligence, implying that they held a role in the development of our species.21
At about 12 years old (in 1965) John felt compelled to plant sunflower seeds outside of his bedroom window so that “they know where to find me because I wanted them to take me and not bring me back.” He recalls that this prompted an experience where he remembers “many hands pulling me out of bed and taking me to a craft and being held by a being and being laid down on a table to be examined.” John indicates that he is unclear if this was a dream.22
John has indicated that, at various points in his life, he had experienced sleep paralysis which involved “waking up in that state and seeing a shadow presence in his bedroom.23
During his adulthood, John experienced several close interactions with what he described as an orange-colored orb and a white colored orb. According to John, he “received messaged from the white colored orb” that “encouraged him to come out and talk about what [he knew].” This communication occurred when John was about 62 (in 2015-16) which prompted him to finish a PowerPoint presentation, clear it for publication with the CIA’s Pre-publication Classification Review Board, and begin presenting it on prominent UFO podcasts.24 This presentation can notably be found on a November 2021 appearance on the Project Unity podcast here.
When asked what message he feels a non-human intelligence is trying to communicate to him, John has indicated that “it’s not a dire warning. It’s more like it’s humanities responsibility to take care of this planet because [they] live on it to and [they] don’t like what we’ve been doing. You have free will so exercise your free will to take care of your planet because if you don’t, your species may suffer dire consequences if the planet turns against you. [They indicate] that we’re doing things to the planet, but the planet will defend itself. It’s not necessary for planet earth to be viable with humans on it. Planet earth will be viable [even if] there are no humans on it. So it’s more [about] our existence on this planet which we share with these visitors. I call these visitors residents because they’ve been here [longer]. That’s the ultra-terrestrial hypothesis.”25
When asked what these entities look like, John indicated that: “I don’t like to use the word ‘reptilian’ because people think of snakes or lizards. They’re not snakes or lizards … they’re more like humanoid with a mixture of Sarian. Bipedal, two arms, a head, two eyes, mouth and so forth. They’re flesh and blood and, as far as I can tell, these are the beings I interacted with.”26
At about 67 (in 2020), John moved to Tucson, Arizona.27 It was after this change, that, according to John, “a being came to me and said ‘don’t worry. We know you moved. We can always find you. We found you [here] and just want to see if you’re okay.”28
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Faizi, Omar. “Navigating the US Intelligence Community for UFOlogists.” Watchers Talk, November 27, 2021. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Iz5__ZDvwc. At 4min 13s.
Raasch, Sean. “The Return of John Ramirez.” Witness Citizen, January 11, 2022. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjeWwoyzb5E. At 9min 41s.
Willis, Martin. “John Ramirez, CIA Retired, UFOs/UAPs, Encounters and More!” Podcast UFO, December 7, 2021. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d7Mmss5TVI.
Note: His departure in 1979 is specified in the biographical details offered in the description of this video.
McGrillen, Andy. “John Ramirez.” That UFO Podcast, November 23, 2021. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcPKD1dRzFg. At 5min 23s.
Moszkowicz, Max. “John Ramirez (Ret) CIA Officer on #Moszkowicz.” Moszkowicz Show, December 14, 2021. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HLkdE9APkE. At 7min 46s.
Squidding, Rather, and Michael Matolini. “Revealing Interview! - Former CIA Mr. John Ramirez.” Mysterious Unexplained UAP USO UFO Sighting, December 17, 2021. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJiS7p98x-E. At 28min 38s.
Steinfeld, Alan. “Latest Info on the Disclosure of UFOs with John Ramirez Former CIA Officer.” New Realities, August 25, 2022. https://www.youtube.com/live/6WHsREwkUUI?si=GVy-B3wjkHdbecOC. At 1h 28min 36s.
Greenwald, John. “Retired CIA Officer John Ramirez on the Agency, Orbs, Intelligence Gathering, And Much More.” The Black Vault, February 4, 2022. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXerKPm2-p4. At 24min 38s.
Stone, Pricilla. “Retired CIA Officer John Ramirez.” Quantum Wytch Cafe, February 2, 2022. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2wyqPmigVU. At 10min 46s.
Hana, Nadi. “John Ramirez with Nadi Hana.” Light Net, May 18, 2021. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94BtE75Sgbc. At 30min 44s.
Steinfeld, “Latest Info on the Disclosure of UFOs with John Ramirez Former CIA Officer.” At 50min 53s.
Stone, Pricilla. “Retired CIA Officer John Ramirez.” Quantum Wytch Cafe, February 2, 2022. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2wyqPmigVU. At 16min 32s.
Squidding, “Revealing Interview! - Former CIA Mr. John Ramirez.” At 1h 44min 29s.
D.J., and Nathan. “#22 John Ramirez.” Calling All Beings, March 2, 2022. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UZPT0JSmkU. At 1h 12min 17s.
Steinfeld, “Latest Info on the Disclosure of UFOs with John Ramirez Former CIA Officer.” At 51min 43s.
Steinfeld, “Latest Info on the Disclosure of UFOs with John Ramirez Former CIA Officer.” At 52min 40s.